Monday 30 April 2012

The alleged marriage of Umar ibn al Khattab to Hadhrath Umme Kalthum binte Fatima (as) from the texts of Ahl'ul Sunnah

Ahl'ul Sunnah's disrespect of the family of Imam 'Ali (as)



For this section we have relied on the following authoritative sources of Ahl'ul Sunnah:


  1. Al Istiab Volume 4 page 492
  2. Asad al Ghaybah fi Marifathul Sahaba Volume 5 page 367
  3. Tareekh Baghdad Volume 6 page 182
  4. Tareekh Khamees Volume 2 page 384 Dhikr Umm Kalthum
  5. Tabaqat ibn Sa'd Volume 8 page 463 Dhikr Umm Kalthum
  6. Sawaiqh al Muhriqa page 94
  7. Zakhair al Akba pages 168 and 169
  8. Asaaf al Ghaneen page 162
  9. al Isaba Volume 4 page 321.


Narration One



Let us begin with Asad al Ghaybah Volume 5 page 367:

"Abu Umar narrates on the authority of Zubayr Bakri, 'Umar asked for the hand of Ali's daughter, who replied that she was too young. 'Umar asked twice more. 'Ali said 'I shall send the girl to you, if you like her than say 'I accept''. 'Ali then sent the girl with a cloth and told her to say [to 'Umar] 'This is the scarf that I was talking about'. She conveyed these words to 'Umar, who said 'Tell your father that I accept'. Umar then touched the girl's calf. She exclaimed 'You have done this to me? If it hadn't been for the fact that you are Khalifa of the Muslims I would have broken your nose'. The girl went home and repeated the episode to her father, stating 'You sent me to a foul man', with that 'Ali said 'He is your husband'."
Asad al Ghaybah Volume 5 page 367

Al Isaba Volume 4 page 492 reports the text similarly with difference being the comment of Umme Kalthum (as) namely:

"If it hadn't been the fact that you were Khalifa of the Muslims I would have spat in your face".
Al Isaba Volume 4 page 492

Lest there be any doubts over the translation here we have attached the original Arabic that is used Asad al Ghayba and Al Isaba. In this text we read that Sayyida Umme Kalthum (as) said to her father that he sent her:

'Ila Shaykh Suw' This means 'you sent me to a Suw man'. What does Suw mean? In Arabic the word Suw is a very derogatory term. The Hans Wehr Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic (3rd Edition) page 436 says that in Arabic Suw means:

'Bad, evil, foul, wicked' - applying this to the context in which the little girl was touched by 'Umar, the text suggests that Umme Kalthum (as) viewed Umar as a pervert, paedophile or child molester.


Narration Two



We read in Al Istiab Volume 4 page 467:

"'Umar asked Ali for the hand of Umme Kalthum. 'Ali replied that she was too young. 'Umar said 'Marry her to me and do as I say for I wish to attain to that position which no one else has attained. 'Ali then said, 'I shall send Umme Kalthum to you. If you like her then I shall marry her to you.' 'Ali then sent the girl with a cloth and told her to say [to 'Umar] 'This is the scarf that I was talking about'. She conveyed these words to Umar, who said 'Tell your father that I accept'. Umar then touched the girl's calf. She exclaimed, 'You have done this to me? If it had not been the fact that you were Khalifa of the Muslims I would have broken your nose'. The girl went home and repeated the episode to her father, stating 'You sent me to a foul man', with that 'Ali said 'He is your husband'. Umar then attended a gathering of the Muhajireen and said 'Congratulate me'. They said 'Why?' He said 'I have married Umme Kalthum binte 'Ali.'"


Narration Three



We read in Zakhair Al-Aqba, Page 169

"Umar asked 'Ali that he be permitted to marry Umme Kalthum binte Fatima (as), to which Ali replied that he had to consult some people before giving Umar an answer. 'Ali gathered his and Fatima's children and told them about it (the proposal). They all agreed. 'Ali (as) asked that Umme Kalthum, who was still a milk fed baby, go to Umar and tell him that the request had been granted. When Umme Kalthum went to Umar and delivered the message, he grabbed her, hugged her and said, 'I had asked her father for consent to marry you and he has agreed".

Is this how the Ahl'ul Sunnah Ulema afford respect to the grand daughter of Rasulullah (s)? Are the daughters of Abu Bakr, Umar or Uthman married in this manner? Is this the manner in which the women of Afriki's household are married off? The Ahl' ul bayt (as) are the shining examples of chastity, modesty and purdah, and they send their daughters unchaperoned to a potential husband who can do whatever he pleases with them. Does an honourable father treat his daughter like some product that a potential suitor can touch, examine, return and then make a decision on? Is this the way that Imam 'Ali (as) would marry his daughter? In marriage an agreement to the proposal does not just suffice, the Nikah ceremony needs to be read and the parties must accept one another, it is not conducted by sending one's daughter to the bride groom who then without Nikah embraces the girl.


Narration Four



Now let us turn to the way that Tareekh Khamees Volume 2 page 384 'Dhikr Umm Kalthum' and Zakhair Al-Aqba, Page 168 narrate this matter:

"'Umar asked 'Ali for the hand of his daughter, Umme Kalthum in marriage. 'Ali replied that she has not yet attained the age (of maturity). 'Umar replied, 'By Allah, this is not true. You do not want her to marry me. If she is underage, send her to me'. Thus 'Ali gave his daughter Umme Kalthum a dress and asked her to go to 'Umar and tell him that her father wants to know what this dress is for. When she came to Umar and gave him the message, he grabbed her hand and forcibly pulled her towards him. 'Umme Kalthum asked him to leave her hand, which Umar did and said, 'You are a very mannered lady with great morals. Go and tell your father that you are very pretty and you are not what he said of you'. With that 'Ali married Umme Kalthum to 'Umar."

The next narration is in the same unbelievable tradition of pure filth.


Narration Five



We read in Tareekh Baghdad Volume 6 page 182:

"'Umar asked for the hand of 'Ali's daughter. 'Ali ordered her to groom herself. He sent her to 'Umar, who grabbed her calf, kissed her, and said 'Tell your father that I am happy.' Upon her return she said to her father, 'He kissed me, grabbed my calf and told me to convey to you that he was happy'".

Allah (swt) knows our intentions. We have been forced to cite this filth because of the Nasibis. We are not proud of placing these filthy fables before people's eyes. But we wish to point out certain home truths to our enemies who would accuse the Shi'a of being Saba'ites (a fabricated notion that the Shi'a were founded by a Jew Abdullah bin Saba) and thus people who actually disrespect Ahl'ul bayt (as). These filthy fables, which are clearly fabricated, are writings from the pens of the scholars of Ahl'ul Sunnah wa- al Jamaah. These perverted stories that portray 'Umar as a paedophile prove that Nasibi scholars lie out of their teeth to their own people e.g. their belief that the Shi'a were founded by a Jew called Abdullah bin Saba as well as the fabricated stories of a paedophile's lust that have been cited above. In addition they prove the existence of a deeply entrenched tradition of vile hatred for Ahl-ulBait in Sunni Islam. This form of vile hatred is found in the Wahabi quarter of the muslim world. Most self-respecting Sunnis would indeed be shocked by the level of disrespect that the Nasibi Wahabis show to Ahl'ul bayt (as). Incidentally, they have also, and possibly unwittingly, shown 'Umar up as a paedophile. Alternately such traditions may have been fabricated both to denigrate the respect that should be afforded to the Ahl-ulBait, and to justify paedophilia (here it is part of the Sunnah of 'Umar) as certain muslim groups of the Nasibi persuasion have allowed it for their followers historically. In this day and age it rather notoriously includes certain members of the Saudi royal family, but has also included other Nasibis in history.

This is just part of the small print that goes with reading Afriki's "loan" to us. If we accept this narration (Allah Forbid), then we would be upholding Imam 'Ali (as) happily sending his young, unmarried daughter to the home of an elderly man who decides to molest her. This man is 'Umar, a pervert of the first order according to these Nasibi traditions. Yes, there are perverts in high office in many countries�sex scandals make the news all the time�are we to believe that such debauchery was going on and being conducted by the Khalifa 'Umar as well? Given how corrupt history teaches us politicians can be, this notion may have been worth a second look were it not for the fact that the girl is so young that her father says she is not of an age for marriage (more on that later on). Is this how a proposal for marriage is conducted? Can Afriki tell us of any muslim parent that would allow a potential suitor to court their daughter in this manner? Here a muslim father allegedly sends his daughter to the home of the potential suitor who kisses her calf (Istiab) and grabs her elbow (Khamees / Baghdad). Both actions of 'Umar are HARAM as he was not married to her. Why does her father, Imam Ali (as), not accompany his daughter? Is this not recommended and common practice according to Islamic ahkam? And after this sordid behaviour the alleged suitor, 'Umar, is still deemed by the alleged father-in-law to be an acceptable husband for his daughter! We are sure that no matter how degenerate a handful of Muslim families may be, none would adhere to this type of filthy protocol - yet these Marwani Nasibi Ulema attribute this filth to the granddaughter of Rasulullah (s)! Their hatred of Ahl-ulBait is truly of the most sick sort. It says a great deal, in fact, about their own diseased and perverted sick minds. In this day and age they could have had successful careers writing for pornographic magazines. Back in those days they were on the payroll of the corrupt khalifas. There is a link between porn and politics. This was one of them� the sick minds of scholars who wrote fabricated lies to appease khalifas who wanted official religious sanction for their own perverted recreational habits.

We read in Sawaiqh al Muhriqa page 280 and Asaaf al Ghaneen page 162:

"Umar asked for the hand of 'Ali's daughter. 'Ali replied that she is too young. Umar eventually made 'Ali desperate, and he [Umar] climbed the pulpit declaring 'By Allah, I have made 'Ali desperate as I heard Rasulullah (s) say that on the Day of Judgement all family trees shall me severed save those of my family'. By the orders of 'Ali Umme Kalthum was then groomed and sent to Umar. When Umar saw her, he got up, took her in his lap, kissed her, and showered blessings on her. When she got up to leave, he grabbed her ankle and said, 'Tell your father that I am willing'. When she returned home and told her father about what had transpired, Ali married her to Umar".
Sawaiqh al Muhriqa page 280 - Arabic
Sawaiqh al Muhriqa page 157 - Farsi

Whilst narrating this filth we ask forgiveness before Sayyida Fatima (as) but these lying Nasibis have left us with no other choice but to cite this rubbish from their books� references that attempt to degrade their fourth rightly guided Khalifa. These Nasibi cite these references as proof of 'Umar's virtues when in reality they destroy him the most, presenting him as some sick perverted old man. Actions that he is alleged to have performed are those that no decent man would indulge in. Yet this is the 'respect' that is afforded to the daughter of Imam 'Ali (as). We are sure that the Jews never attributed the type of lies to the mother of Musa (as) nor did the Christians in relation to Hadhrath Maryam (as). Yet these sick traditions have been attributed by these so-called Ansar (helpers) of the Deen. These lies are not part of some concocted Jewish conspiracy nor are they the writings of the fictitious Ibn Saba. These are the writings of the Ahl'ul Sunnah that claim that Imam 'Ali (as) prepared his daughter and then sent her unaccompanied to Umar who decided to place the girl in his lap and kiss her. Does the Shari'a allow a man to place a girl who is not mahram to him and has attained puberty in his lap and then kiss her? Are the Ahl'ul Sunnah prepared to accept that the esteemed Khalifa of the Sunni Muslims embraces and kisses a non-mahram girl? Is this the behaviour of a figure that the Ahl'ul Sunnah deem to be a rightly guided Khalifa, or is this the example of a fasiq / transgressor Khalifa? The onus is on the Nasibis to defend 'Umar. It is they who accept this marriage occurred. It is we who reject it and thus as far as we are concerned these traditions are fabricated by Nasibi scum to insult true Islam.


Narration Six



Now let us cite Tabaqat ibn Sa'd Volume 8 page 464 Dhikr Umm Kalthum:

Umar asked Imam Ali for the hand of Bibi Umme Kalthum (as) in marriage, to which Ali replied, 'O Commander of the Faithful, she is a milk fed child'. To which Umar replied, 'By Allah! That is not true. You are seeking to avoid me'. ' Ali therefore ordered that Umme Kalthum have a bath and then wear a shawl. 'Ali told her to go to the Khalifa, 'give him my regards and ask him if he likes the shawl, he can keep it, other wise, he should return it'. When she came to Umar, he said, 'May Allah bless you and your father, I like it'. Hence Umme Kalthum came back to her father and told her that Umar did not open the shawl but just looked at me. Ali married her to Umar and they had a child named Zayd.
Tabaqat ibn Sa'd Volume 8 page 464

Again does a father marry off a daughter in this manner? Dress her up (so as to make her look attractive) and then send her to the home of her potential husband? Is this how Nasibi Mullah's marry their daughters / sisters? If so, it may well have been the way Mullah 'Umar sent one of his daughters round to see 'Usama bin Ladin, who married her! In this case, 'Usama bin Ladin is also a pervert. We should stress to these Nasibi that the act of sending one's daughters before potential candidates is the Sunnah of 'Umar not the Sunnah of Ahl'ul bayt (as).

This is clearly proven from Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Hadith Number 352 in the Book of Nikah:

" 'Umar bin Al-Khattab said, 'When Hafsa bint 'Umar became a widow after the death of (her husband) Khunais bin Hudhafa As-Sahmi who had been one of the companions of the Prophet, and he died at Medina. I went to 'Uthman bin 'Affan and presented Hafsa (for marriage) to him. He said, 'I will think it over.' I waited for a few days, and then he met me and said, 'It seems that it is not possible for me to marry at present.' 'Umar further said, 'I met Abu Bakr As-Siddique and said to him, 'If you wish, I will marry my daughter Hafsa to you.' Abu Bakr kept quiet and did not say anything to me in reply. I became angrier with him than with 'Uthman. I waited for a few days and then Allah's Apostle asked for her hand, and I gave her in marriage to him.' "

TAKE HOME MESSAGE TO THE NASIBIS: IF YOU BELIEVE THAT UMM KULTHAM (AS) BINTE ALI (AS) WAS MARRIED TO 'UMAR YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT 'UMAR WAS ALSO A PERVERT OF THE FIRST ORDER. THERE ARE NO "IFS" OR "BUTS" IN THIS. THESE SAME TRADITIONS YOU CITE TO BASE YOUR BELIEF IN THE MARRIAGE ALSO CATEGORICALLY NOTE THE METHOD OF THE 'COURTSHIP'. IN THEM 'UMAR COMMITS ACTIONS THAT STAMP HIM AS A RESOLUTE PERVERT.

WE DON'T BELIEVE THE MARRIAGE EVER TOOK PLACE. THE HONUS IS NOW ON YOU TO TELL US WHY YOU FOLLOW A MAN WHO, YOUR BELIEF IN THIS MARRIAGE STAMPS AS A PERVERT, YET ALSO AS YOUR SECOND RIGHTLY GUIDED KHALIFA.

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